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If you mean because of the integrated graphics, sure. But this CPU paired with a decent GPU is more than enough for AAA games.
Yes but no. AMD's APUs have significantly worse CPU performance than a 5600x by a large margin. If you plan to get a GPU, dont buy a 5600g or 5700g. The whole point of these is that they have an IGP, about equivalent to a very low end GPU, like below a 1030. So when you eventually buy a good GPU like a 3070 or 6700xt, now you have a APU with a worthless IGP bottlenecking you if youre running 1080p or 1440p because of low CPU performance.
If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
Yes but no. AMD's APUs have significantly worse CPU performance than a 5600x by a large margin. If you plan to get a GPU, dont buy a 5600g or 5700g. The whole point of these is that they have an IGP, about equivalent to a very low end GPU, like below a 1030. So when you eventually buy a good GPU like a 3070 or 6700xt, now you have a APU with a worthless IGP bottlenecking you if youre running 1080p or 1440p because of low CPU performance.
If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
Fair points. Intel vs AMD is another convo.
If you already have an AMD mobo and want to upgrade, there are CPUs better than this one. But if you want to upgrade, for I believe the cheapest of all AMD cpus right now, its this one.
Yes but no. AMD's APUs have significantly worse CPU performance than a 5600x by a large margin. If you plan to get a GPU, dont buy a 5600g or 5700g. The whole point of these is that they have an IGP, about equivalent to a very low end GPU, like below a 1030. So when you eventually buy a good GPU like a 3070 or 6700xt, now you have a APU with a worthless IGP bottlenecking you if youre running 1080p or 1440p because of low CPU performance.
If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
Good info thanks. Is it true of Intel also, like the integrated GPU models are slower than the ones without graphics?
Yes but no. AMD's APUs have significantly worse CPU performance than a 5600x by a large margin. If you plan to get a GPU, dont buy a 5600g or 5700g. The whole point of these is that they have an IGP, about equivalent to a very low end GPU, like below a 1030. So when you eventually buy a good GPU like a 3070 or 6700xt, now you have a APU with a worthless IGP bottlenecking you if youre running 1080p or 1440p because of low CPU performance.
If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
Worse performance by a large margin?
I've never seen anything that suggests that. Maybe 5%, 10% at worst.
Yes but no. AMD's APUs have significantly worse CPU performance than a 5600x by a large margin.
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If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x....
I would say only get a 5600x (or better) if you already have a GPU in hand and need it for AAA gameplay. It's a little disingenuous, imho, to say that the 5600G is significantly worse by a large margin compared to a 5600X. It trails by about 6% in multithreaded CPU tasks and 8-12% in single threaded. That means, for real processes, 64-66 seconds to encode a video that a 5600X takes 60 seconds to complete.
In gaming, sure it might be a bottleneck if you have a $2000 RTX 3090, but - really - you'll likely never notice the couple of FPS difference with a 3070. And the 5600G absolutely destroys (like 100% better - playable 1080 vs unplayable) the i7-11700 if you don't have a GPU in your system yet.
If you want a cost-effective system you can play now that will be upgraded later with a full-flavor GPU, it's worth it. If you just want to save 15% on the GPU cost and are willing to sacrifice 6-8% peak performance for those savings, it's still better. If you have a GPU and want max frames, then get the 5600X.
I would say only get a 5600x (or better) if you already have a GPU in hand and need it for AAA gameplay. It's a little disingenuous, imho, to say that the 5600G is significantly worse by a large margin compared to a 5600X. It trails by about 6% in multithreaded CPU tasks and 8-12% in single threaded. That means, for real processes, 64-66 seconds to encode a video that a 5600X takes 60 seconds to complete.
In gaming, sure it might be a bottleneck if you have a $2000 RTX 3090, but - really - you'll likely never notice the couple of FPS difference with a 3070. And the 5600G absolutely destroys (like 100% better - playable 1080 vs unplayable) the i7-11700 if you don't have a GPU in your system yet.
If you want a cost-effective system you can play now that will be upgraded later with a full-flavor GPU, it's worth it. If you just want to save 15% on the GPU cost and are willing to sacrifice 6-8% peak performance for those savings, it's still better. If you have a GPU and want max frames, then get the 5600X.
I agree, the difference in CPU performance is nearly insignificant. And if someone buys a 3090, the 5600x is going to be a limiting factor anyway.
About as fast as a 5600x but about $30 cheaper.
And it has onboard iGpu. Why shouldn't I buy this and pop in a gpu later?
If it's all you can fit in your budget and it meets your needs then pull the trigger. Otherwise a cheaper GPU + 5900X will be much better in terms of performance.
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If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
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If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
If you already have an AMD mobo and want to upgrade, there are CPUs better than this one. But if you want to upgrade, for I believe the cheapest of all AMD cpus right now, its this one.
If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
If you are going to buy a GPU, instead of getting this get a 5600x or buy a 10700k or 11600k which have similar performance but have IGPs for basic use or wait for 12th gen in a month where a $260 12600k will beat a 5800x in CPU performance and have an IGP.
I've never seen anything that suggests that. Maybe 5%, 10% at worst.
Do you have a source to back that up?
In gaming, sure it might be a bottleneck if you have a $2000 RTX 3090, but - really - you'll likely never notice the couple of FPS difference with a 3070. And the 5600G absolutely destroys (like 100% better - playable 1080 vs unplayable) the i7-11700 if you don't have a GPU in your system yet.
If you want a cost-effective system you can play now that will be upgraded later with a full-flavor GPU, it's worth it. If you just want to save 15% on the GPU cost and are willing to sacrifice 6-8% peak performance for those savings, it's still better. If you have a GPU and want max frames, then get the 5600X.
In gaming, sure it might be a bottleneck if you have a $2000 RTX 3090, but - really - you'll likely never notice the couple of FPS difference with a 3070. And the 5600G absolutely destroys (like 100% better - playable 1080 vs unplayable) the i7-11700 if you don't have a GPU in your system yet.
If you want a cost-effective system you can play now that will be upgraded later with a full-flavor GPU, it's worth it. If you just want to save 15% on the GPU cost and are willing to sacrifice 6-8% peak performance for those savings, it's still better. If you have a GPU and want max frames, then get the 5600X.
And it has onboard iGpu. Why shouldn't I buy this and pop in a gpu later?
And it has onboard iGpu. Why shouldn't I buy this and pop in a gpu later?