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BenQ has refurbished projectors in stock. I am not sure how much of inventory they have. I at least put an order in and received an e-mail stating expected delivery of Jan 14 (No tracking info yet).
TK850 for $1227.53 refurb
https://buy.benq.com/us-buy/tk850-refurb.html OOS
-Regular price: $1549 new based on my research)
HT3550 for $1274.15 for refurb
https://buy.benq.com/us-buy/ht3550-refurb.html
- Regular price : $1549 new
- 2021 BF price : $1499
- Most recent refurb price : $1199, December 2020.
More refurbished projectors in stock can be found below (But most aren't attractive imo...)
https://www.benq.com/en-us/refurb...eater.html
Warranty:
- These come with 1 yr warranty
- For lamp, 90 days or 500 hours warranty, whichever comes first.
- Brand new comes with 3 years warranty if you are curious.
https://www.benq.com/en-us/suppor...ished.html
Bulb pricing (not really a deal, but for projector purchase consideration purposes):
$119 for each bulb on both projectors on BenQ.
https://www.benq.com/en-us/projec...t3550.html
https://www.benq.com/en-us/projec...tk810.html
Some highlights from me for posting this deal.
- Customer pays return shipping. (I can't find any info if they charge restocking fee).
- HT3550/ TK850 are both pixel-shifted to 4K from 1080P (or fake 4K), but many reviews state their sharpness is great for the price point.
- Both are greatly reviewed projectors for $1000-2000 range.
- Dark room/movie purposes - HT3550 is better than TK850M. HT3550 has better contrast and calibrated color.
- Bright room/sports/gaming purposes - TK850 has 3000 lumens and is much brighter. It is better suited for these purposes than HT3550.
- HT3550 vs HT3550i - "i" version of HT is listed as $1529.15. It comes with wireless USB dongle. I am not sure if it is supposed to be a big improvement over HT3550. That's about $300 more than HT3550 for more or less the same projector (based on my research...) The price difference is probably not justified. I personally believe it is better to buy HT3550 (and ditch HT3550i for current price) and buy separate media streaming USB stick like firestick 4K and keep the cash difference IMO.
TK800M vs TK850 - TK800m is older model. It is also listed at $1099 refurb. This is NOT a good price. TK800M was $950 few months ago and still $1149 brand new on many retailers. Also, TK850 has dynamic iris, which can improve the contrast/black level of the images significantly. Ignore TK800M on benq's refurbished website.
- Based on brief SD search, I didn't see a posting with HT3550 close to this price for a while. Latest deal post is 12/24/2020 at $1199 refurb or $1499 new 2021 BF.
- Epson HC3800 is discussed a lot and compared often against TK850/HT3550 on projectors forums. HC3800 refurb was briefly FP earlier today at $1330 refurbished, then sold out quick (Now $1399 on ebay by Epson direct).
- If you are willing to spend more than $2000, Epson 5050UB is occassionally available refurb $2500 or $2900-3000ish for new nowadays. Epson 5050UB is known for deeper black, but be aware that it's huge and substantially heavier than HT3550 and TK850. Epson 5050UB ideally should give you easier mounting options due to its lens shift adjustments available.
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- I determined my comfortable price range first. These BenQs are below $1500 price point. This is relatively speaking "cheap" for 4K projectors. The laser PJ can easily go anywhere between $1500-6000.
- Assuming it is a good laser projector and when compared on paper, the laser projectors ideally should give better image quality than DLP. From reading reviews and screenshot samples of laser PJ, I did not see enough positive response in terms of image quality for the price difference for my usage. I basically identified myself as average enthusiast.
- Lamp hours - Laser PJ claim about 15,000 hours lifetime. BenQ claims 4000 for normal, 15,000 on Eco (some reviewers say real usage hours should be between 4000-6000 unless you like your images really bright). The bulbs for these BenQ projectors are currently $119 on BenQ's website. It can be annoying to replace the bulbs more often, but eventually BenQ would've saved more money in the long run. (Esp considering, I could only watch 3-5 movies max per any given week).
- Ultra short throw (UST) laser PJ – laser UST can be used on regular wall/painted wall/white or grey screen. But, by doing so, you lose a lot of the projected light. The light is shot upward from the PJ, then bounce to the ceiling, not to the viewers. It is recommended to get UST specific projectors that bounce light to the viewers (ambient light rejecting screen or ALR). And, NOT every ALR screen is designed for UST. Some of the ALR models rejected lights to wrong direction and can give you worse image quality by spending more on screen.
- And, these screens are very expensive ($500-700ish for 100" ish, $700-1200ish for 120" for screen alone depending on what size you want).
- Basically, for the same amount of money, traditional throw PJ usually gives better image quality for less convenience.
- Many UST PJs don't support size greater than 120". This is another major limitation compared to traditional long throw projectors.
- Pricing... assuming you get a deal on laser PJ, the proper UST laser set up will easily run you more than $3000, which is about double of these BenQ with decent screens. Following is pricing info on UST laser PJ I had...
Samsung LSP7T - 2200 lumens - MSRP of $3800. $2000 last fall thru EDU deal. I put offer in for green foot website place in December. One authorized dealer countered with $2237. Might not be bright enough if used in bright room. Generally well regarded laser UST PJ.
Samsung LSP9T - Didn't do too much research on this since this was way out of my budget. One notable issue is 9T uses triple laser sources and can have what they call "speckle" issue. Giving grainy image that many users find annoying. Some preferred 7T over 9T, because of this.
Optoma P2 - Normally $3000-3200ish... $2500 deal ended on 1/2 on many retailers. This one has more user reviews stating they don't like user interface and having hardware issues.
BenQ V7050i - Normally $3500. $3000 on sale last BF. Very well reviewed unit from what I've seen.
Other notable one.. Viewsonic LED X1000-4k. Ultrashort, $1900 on pssav.com was best price I could find. I confirmed with Viewsonic that pssav is not an authorized seller on their list, but buying it new from them would still give you Viewsonic's warranty. Their reviews seemed worth a shot, but I have not shopped from them directly before. Please, do own research on them if you ever go with this route.
It's probably too much info for your quick question, but I decided to provide everything I wish I knew after researching. I hope this could help you or anyone out there reading this
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Pros:
No mounting required.
Achieve very high brightness with good contrast, color and black level.
Better suited for non-home-theater rooms. IMO, a projector mounted on ceiling is odd for a living room or a bedroom.
Cons:
Expensive. A Good 4k UST from Samsung, Hisense, or even VAVA costs $2500+.
The size is big. Much bigger than a ceiling mounted projector. And takes a lot of console table space.
Noisier than regular projector (could be just mine).
Project image too high if your console table is not low enough.
Picture distorts a lot if directly projecting to a wall since the source is too close and the wall is not flat guaranteed.
A screen is expensive at $500+.
Depending the depth of your console table and the desired size of picture, you may need to put the console table away from the wall, which does not look good.
That is to say overhead projector is good for home theater and UST is good for a regular room. I enjoy my HT2050 in the basement and VAVA 4k UST in bedroom.
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- I determined my comfortable price range first. These BenQs are below $1500 price point. This is relatively speaking "cheap" for 4K projectors. The laser PJ can easily go anywhere between $1500-6000.
- Assuming it is a good laser projector and when compared on paper, the laser projectors ideally should give better image quality than DLP. From reading reviews and screenshot samples of laser PJ, I did not see enough positive response in terms of image quality for the price difference for my usage. I basically identified myself as average enthusiast.
- Lamp hours - Laser PJ claim about 15,000 hours lifetime. BenQ claims 4000 for normal, 15,000 on Eco (some reviewers say real usage hours should be between 4000-6000 unless you like your images really bright). The bulbs for these BenQ projectors are currently $119 on BenQ's website. It can be annoying to replace the bulbs more often, but eventually BenQ would've saved more money in the long run. (Esp considering, I could only watch 3-5 movies max per any given week).
- Ultra short throw (UST) laser PJ – laser UST can be used on regular wall/painted wall/white or grey screen. But, by doing so, you lose a lot of the projected light. The light is shot upward from the PJ, then bounce to the ceiling, not to the viewers. It is recommended to get UST specific projectors that bounce light to the viewers (ambient light rejecting screen or ALR). And, NOT every ALR screen is designed for UST. Some of the ALR models rejected lights to wrong direction and can give you worse image quality by spending more on screen.
- And, these screens are very expensive ($500-700ish for 100" ish, $700-1200ish for 120" for screen alone depending on what size you want).
- Basically, for the same amount of money, traditional throw PJ usually gives better image quality for less convenience.
- Many UST PJs don't support size greater than 120". This is another major limitation compared to traditional long throw projectors.
- Pricing... assuming you get a deal on laser PJ, the proper UST laser set up will easily run you more than $3000, which is about double of these BenQ with decent screens. Following is pricing info on UST laser PJ I had...
Samsung LSP7T - 2200 lumens - MSRP of $3800. $2000 last fall thru EDU deal. I put offer in for green foot website place in December. One authorized dealer countered with $2237. Might not be bright enough if used in bright room. Generally well regarded laser UST PJ.
Samsung LSP9T - Didn't do too much research on this since this was way out of my budget. One notable issue is 9T uses triple laser sources and can have what they call "speckle" issue. Giving grainy image that many users find annoying. Some preferred 7T over 9T, because of this.
Optoma P2 - Normally $3000-3200ish... $2500 deal ended on 1/2 on many retailers. This one has more user reviews stating they don't like user interface and having hardware issues.
BenQ V7050i - Normally $3500. $3000 on sale last BF. Very well reviewed unit from what I've seen.
Other notable one.. Viewsonic LED X1000-4k. Ultrashort, $1900 on pssav.com was best price I could find. I confirmed with Viewsonic that pssav is not an authorized seller on their list, but buying it new from them would still give you Viewsonic's warranty. Their reviews seemed worth a shot, but I have not shopped from them directly before. Please, do own research on them if you ever go with this route.
It's probably too much info for your quick question, but I decided to provide everything I wish I knew after researching. I hope this could help you or anyone out there reading this
Where did you get the HT3050 bulb for $60? Do you mind sharing the link?
I'd like to know too.