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Twice the DDR, twice the SSD, twice the warranty (4 times warranty using Costco CC), touch screen, backlit keyboard, (potentially) less concern vs. Lenovo hinges, cash back, 90 day hassle free returns, Windows 11.... and slightly better CPU scores via PassMark. Costco.
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Yeah, too bad Costco doesn't have the Lenovo. HP has always been a hard pass for me, 80% of the time you will need that warranty. Stopped buying HP PC's even for work purposes. 90% of the machines had multiple issues (no joke).
Dell is about 10-15% issues - but still our #1 go to as warranty stuff is for the most part no issue.
Lenovo has issues with liquids and *heavy* keyboard use.
Yeah, too bad Costco doesn't have the Lenovo. HP has always been a hard pass for me, 80% of the time you will need that warranty. Stopped buying HP PC's even for work purposes. 90% of the machines had multiple issues (no joke).
Dell is about 10-15% issues - but still our #1 go to as warranty stuff is for the most part no issue.
This is actually a good deal. 8gb ram costs $30. The build quality of a thinkpad is probably better. The weight is 0.5 lbs more than Costco.
The other deal getting referred here is the HP Pavilion 15 with Ryzen 7 5825U, 16GB DDR4 Ram and 512GB PCIe Storage and for a budget consumer laptop, based on specification, that is a good deal. I did that post that initially at $600 and after that Costco reduced the price to $550.
However, comparing a ThinkPad with a low end consumer Laptop based on just hardware specification, is a wrong idea in the 1st place. Even the basic ThinkPad series like the E series, L series, are far better durable and reliable than costlier Consumer Laptops. Also, people has a confusion that metal build laptops are durable which is a wrong idea. They may offer better build but durability is a different thing. All ThinkPad goes under MIL-STD certification for Shock, Dust, Water and temp and offer far higher longevity.
Now this laptop has 8GB Ram and you can spend around $25-$30 to get another 8GB stick and probably another $30-$40 for a 256GB NVMe Drive.
This has better port selection, better security features, Ryen Pro Processors which is helpful if you're planning to run software with Virtualization, better port selection including Gigabit Ethernet ports, 2x Type-C etc.
You may be perfectly fine with that Pavilion 15 but depending upon your use cases, this may be a better choice for you. If you prefer security, durability, tons of ports then this may be the device for you.
You're getting voted down because you're falling into the trap of comparing horsepower/torque without looking at the full package.
This Thinkpad is a VW GTI, and the HP is something like a Subaru WRX. There's a reason why people pay a premium for the GTI. Both are perfectly fine choices and get cross shopped, but when you take a closer look you realize it's apples and oranges.
I'm shopping around to replace a 2018 X1 Carbon and it's been a solid reliable laptop. Absolutely the best laptop I've owned in my life (dating back to my first $3,000 laptop in the 90s), and can appreciate the nice quality keyboards and finishes on Thinkpads. Lenovo didn't turn the brand to shit, they're still very good.
You're getting voted down because you're falling into the trap of comparing horsepower/torque without looking at the full package.
This Thinkpad is a VW GTI, and the HP is something like a Subaru WRX. There's a reason why people pay a premium for the GTI. Both are perfectly fine choices and get cross shopped, but when you take a closer look you realize it's apples and oranges.
I'm shopping around to replace a 2018 X1 Carbon and it's been a solid reliable laptop. Absolutely the best laptop I've owned in my life (dating back to my first $3,000 laptop in the 90s), and can appreciate the nice quality keyboards and finishes on Thinkpads. Lenovo didn't turn the brand to shit, they're still very good.
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The other deal getting referred here is the HP Pavilion 15 with Ryzen 7 5825U, 16GB DDR4 Ram and 512GB PCIe Storage and for a budget consumer laptop, based on specification, that is a good deal. I did that post that initially at $600 and after that Costco reduced the price to $550.
However, comparing a ThinkPad with a low end consumer Laptop based on just hardware specification, is a wrong idea in the 1st place. Even the basic ThinkPad series like the E series, L series, are far better durable and reliable than costlier Consumer Laptops. Also, people has a confusion that metal build laptops are durable which is a wrong idea. They may offer better build but durability is a different thing. All ThinkPad goes under MIL-STD certification for Shock, Dust, Water and temp and offer far higher longevity.
Now this laptop has 8GB Ram and you can spend around $25-$30 to get another 8GB stick and probably another $30-$40 for a 256GB NVMe Drive.
This has better port selection, better security features, Ryen Pro Processors which is helpful if you're planning to run software with Virtualization, better port selection including Gigabit Ethernet ports, 2x Type-C etc.
You may be perfectly fine with that Pavilion 15 but depending upon your use cases, this may be a better choice for you. If you prefer security, durability, tons of ports then this may be the device for you.
Agreed. I got the Costco HP Pavilion. I like it so far. I will say the startup is marginally slower than the Lenovo ideapad pro 5600. It might be because of the HP bloatware. The metal build of the HP does seem better than the Lenovo. I've worked on Thinkpads and agree that their build quality outdoes both these.
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Dell is about 10-15% issues - but still our #1 go to as warranty stuff is for the most part no issue.
Lenovo has issues with liquids and *heavy* keyboard use.
Dell is about 10-15% issues - but still our #1 go to as warranty stuff is for the most part no issue.
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However, comparing a ThinkPad with a low end consumer Laptop based on just hardware specification, is a wrong idea in the 1st place. Even the basic ThinkPad series like the E series, L series, are far better durable and reliable than costlier Consumer Laptops. Also, people has a confusion that metal build laptops are durable which is a wrong idea. They may offer better build but durability is a different thing. All ThinkPad goes under MIL-STD certification for Shock, Dust, Water and temp and offer far higher longevity.
Now this laptop has 8GB Ram and you can spend around $25-$30 to get another 8GB stick and probably another $30-$40 for a 256GB NVMe Drive.
This has better port selection, better security features, Ryen Pro Processors which is helpful if you're planning to run software with Virtualization, better port selection including Gigabit Ethernet ports, 2x Type-C etc.
You may be perfectly fine with that Pavilion 15 but depending upon your use cases, this may be a better choice for you. If you prefer security, durability, tons of ports then this may be the device for you.
This Thinkpad is a VW GTI, and the HP is something like a Subaru WRX. There's a reason why people pay a premium for the GTI. Both are perfectly fine choices and get cross shopped, but when you take a closer look you realize it's apples and oranges.
I'm shopping around to replace a 2018 X1 Carbon and it's been a solid reliable laptop. Absolutely the best laptop I've owned in my life (dating back to my first $3,000 laptop in the 90s), and can appreciate the nice quality keyboards and finishes on Thinkpads. Lenovo didn't turn the brand to shit, they're still very good.
This Thinkpad is a VW GTI, and the HP is something like a Subaru WRX. There's a reason why people pay a premium for the GTI. Both are perfectly fine choices and get cross shopped, but when you take a closer look you realize it's apples and oranges.
I'm shopping around to replace a 2018 X1 Carbon and it's been a solid reliable laptop. Absolutely the best laptop I've owned in my life (dating back to my first $3,000 laptop in the 90s), and can appreciate the nice quality keyboards and finishes on Thinkpads. Lenovo didn't turn the brand to shit, they're still very good.
I'm not seeking fame on SD but I do appreciate candid FB. Kudo's!
However, comparing a ThinkPad with a low end consumer Laptop based on just hardware specification, is a wrong idea in the 1st place. Even the basic ThinkPad series like the E series, L series, are far better durable and reliable than costlier Consumer Laptops. Also, people has a confusion that metal build laptops are durable which is a wrong idea. They may offer better build but durability is a different thing. All ThinkPad goes under MIL-STD certification for Shock, Dust, Water and temp and offer far higher longevity.
Now this laptop has 8GB Ram and you can spend around $25-$30 to get another 8GB stick and probably another $30-$40 for a 256GB NVMe Drive.
This has better port selection, better security features, Ryen Pro Processors which is helpful if you're planning to run software with Virtualization, better port selection including Gigabit Ethernet ports, 2x Type-C etc.
You may be perfectly fine with that Pavilion 15 but depending upon your use cases, this may be a better choice for you. If you prefer security, durability, tons of ports then this may be the device for you.