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krypton
06-22-2022 at 02:44 PM.
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So frustrating with all these chargers. They say 69W but in reality if you plug in more than 1 item than the top USB C and USB A apparently only put out 12W. From my understanding iPad Pro can charge at around 36-40W max and iPhone around 20W max. Can anyone recommend a charger than can put out 20W and 40W simultaneously (at the minimum)?
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The_Love_Spud
06-23-2022 at 07:48 PM.
06-23-2022 at 07:48 PM.
Quote from krypton :
So frustrating with all these chargers. They say 69W but in reality if you plug in more than 1 item than the top USB C and USB A apparently only put out 12W. From my understanding iPad Pro can charge at around 36-40W max and iPhone around 20W max. Can anyone recommend a charger than can put out 20W and 40W simultaneously (at the minimum)?
Your stated application is a tough one primarily because some models of the iPad, like laptops and other large capacity USB Power Delivery devices, actually take advantage of their maximum charging rates for more than a brief moment of their charging cycle (given, in large part, the typically larger capacity of their associated batteries). Many cell phones with advertised high wattage charging rates only see those occur for the earliest parts of the charging cycle (i.e. under 50%). Let me know if the following restatement is on point.

What is being sought is a car charger with simultaneous support for:
  • 30W USB-C fast charging for a tablet/PC
    (I think the fastest rate reported for an iPad is 27W?)
  • 20W phone charging
Among the brands I'd personally recommend there are, at best, two compromise solutions to consider.
  1. Prioritize single outlet USB-C charging
    Samsung's EP-L5300 [samsung.com] has a single USB-C port which supports up to 45W fast charging while also sporting a USB-A port which supports up to 15W charging. Though this would limit faster charging to the device on the USB-C port, you could always switch cables/ports as needed so a particularly dead phone could be brought back to life more quickly while the tablet slow charges on the USB-A port (though having different ports could require carrying along different cable combinations in the glovebox).
  2. Balance charging speed
    Though this configuration is available from a number of brands, my personal favorites include Belkin and Insignia [bestbuy.com]. These are dual USB-C devices which each rated to support up to 20W. This would limit the maximum charging speed of your tablet. but the number of choices in this space makes the price "right".
Option two is an easy, economical choice for now even if it sacrifices your desire for the fastest option for your iPad. For the money you likely can't get a more straightforward solution. I also like the second option in that it facilitates a migration to USB-C, though this may prove challenging for you if you aren't already stocked up on the appropriate cables. The first option delivers on your desire for fast iPad charging, but while the legacy USB-A port is fine for today's "average" iPhones, the gap between the 15W capacity of that secondary port and future phone charging speeds is likely to only increase (especially if you've already got one of the Max models which can already exceed the 20W rating).

Also worth consideration for anyone hand-wringing over "slowed" phone charging is the fact that even phones rated for 25W and 45W max charging speed (like Samsung's newest flagships) only support that functionality with PPS chargers. That functionality is becoming more common with AC chargers, but is still fairly rare among car chargers (leaving "45W" phones charging at 18W using a non-PPS Power Delivery profile). Plenty of sites out there [androidauthority.com], however, have also demonstrated just how much marketing space exists in the gap between Samsung's 25W fast charging and 45W fast charging. The TLDR is that 18W Power Delivery charging is pretty good (and something you can find in a lot of car chargers, and for cheap, as I noted above), the less-supported USB PD PPS 25W charging is better, but the improvement with 45W charging is measured in only a few minutes.

I personally have been holding out to see whether Programmable Power Supply (PPS) and >36W car charging devices become more commonplace in car chargers before I make my next purchase. My existing car charging devices support my current in-car needs and I'm hopeful to grab a device in the future that facilitates an easy way to support 30-45W charging on a single port (to support a laptop) while also providing maximum phone charging flexibility for long road trips. Otherwise most of my auto charging is built around "slow" charging devices while on the go to maintain 50-80% rather than, for example, fully reviving devices between commutes/work stops.

Note that there are PLENTY of alternative-brand chargers with >60W ratings, but I'm loathe to recommend them. Case in point, Wirecutter [nytimes.com] cited "a contender for the best dual-USB-C charger on paper" as the Spigen PC2000 (rated with a 45W USB-C port and a 20W USB-C port). However, the issues they found with the device in operation left it out of the recommendations.

Good luck!
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06-26-2022 at 02:38 PM.
06-26-2022 at 02:38 PM.
Quote from The_Love_Spud :
Your stated application is a tough one primarily because some models of the iPad, like laptops and other large capacity USB Power Delivery devices, actually take advantage of their maximum charging rates for more than a brief moment of their charging cycle (given, in large part, the typically larger capacity of their associated batteries). Many cell phones with advertised high wattage charging rates only see those occur for the earliest parts of the charging cycle (i.e. under 50%). Let me know if the following restatement is on point.

What is being sought is a car charger with simultaneous support for:
  • 30W USB-C fast charging for a tablet/PC
    (I think the fastest rate reported for an iPad is 27W?)
  • 20W phone charging
Among the brands I'd personally recommend there are, at best, two compromise solutions to consider.
  1. Prioritize single outlet USB-C charging
    Samsung's EP-L5300 [samsung.com] has a single USB-C port which supports up to 45W fast charging while also sporting a USB-A port which supports up to 15W charging. Though this would limit faster charging to the device on the USB-C port, you could always switch cables/ports as needed so a particularly dead phone could be brought back to life more quickly while the tablet slow charges on the USB-A port (though having different ports could require carrying along different cable combinations in the glovebox).
  2. Balance charging speed
    Though this configuration is available from a number of brands, my personal favorites include Belkin and Insignia [bestbuy.com]. These are dual USB-C devices which each rated to support up to 20W. This would limit the maximum charging speed of your tablet. but the number of choices in this space makes the price "right".
Option two is an easy, economical choice for now even if it sacrifices your desire for the fastest option for your iPad. For the money you likely can't get a more straightforward solution. I also like the second option in that it facilitates a migration to USB-C, though this may prove challenging for you if you aren't already stocked up on the appropriate cables. The first option delivers on your desire for fast iPad charging, but while the legacy USB-A port is fine for today's "average" iPhones, the gap between the 15W capacity of that secondary port and future phone charging speeds is likely to only increase (especially if you've already got one of the Max models which can already exceed the 20W rating).

Also worth consideration for anyone hand-wringing over "slowed" phone charging is the fact that even phones rated for 25W and 45W max charging speed (like Samsung's newest flagships) only support that functionality with PPS chargers. That functionality is becoming more common with AC chargers, but is still fairly rare among car chargers (leaving "45W" phones charging at 18W using a non-PPS Power Delivery profile). Plenty of sites out there [androidauthority.com], however, have also demonstrated just how much marketing space exists in the gap between Samsung's 25W fast charging and 45W fast charging. The TLDR is that 18W Power Delivery charging is pretty good (and something you can find in a lot of car chargers, and for cheap, as I noted above), the less-supported USB PD PPS 25W charging is better, but the improvement with 45W charging is measured in only a few minutes.

I personally have been holding out to see whether Programmable Power Supply (PPS) and >36W car charging devices become more commonplace in car chargers before I make my next purchase. My existing car charging devices support my current in-car needs and I'm hopeful to grab a device in the future that facilitates an easy way to support 30-45W charging on a single port (to support a laptop) while also providing maximum phone charging flexibility for long road trips. Otherwise most of my auto charging is built around "slow" charging devices while on the go to maintain 50-80% rather than, for example, fully reviving devices between commutes/work stops.

Note that there are PLENTY of alternative-brand chargers with >60W ratings, but I'm loathe to recommend them. Case in point, Wirecutter [nytimes.com] cited "a contender for the best dual-USB-C charger on paper" as the Spigen PC2000 (rated with a 45W USB-C port and a 20W USB-C port). However, the issues they found with the device in operation left it out of the recommendations.

Good luck!
Jon

I missed your reply initially but wanted to thank you for such a well broken down response!!! I'm shocked that among the sea of chargers many with 3-4 ports claiming total of 50 to 100 W of power output, the reality is that none of them can put out simultaneous 37W (iPad pro max) and 20W at the same time. A million helpful points to you, sir!

What about something like this https://www.amazon.com/Charger-WO...rRevie ws

There are many similar ones. Claim to provide 65 and 30 simultaneously through the two usb c ports?
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The_Love_Spud
06-26-2022 at 04:35 PM.
06-26-2022 at 04:35 PM.
Quote from krypton :
What about something like this https://www.amazon.com/Charger-WO...rRevie ws [amazon.com]

There are many similar ones. Claim to provide 65 and 30 simultaneously through the two usb c ports?
I've seen them, just never from a brand I'm willing to plug into my car power outlet. That isn't to suggest that products like the one to which you linked can't work, but rather that they might not do so reliably or completely safely (both of which are considerations made by larger brands).

Good luck!
Jon
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