Model: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi ProSeries Motherboard (AMD AM4, DDR4, PCIe 4.0, SATA 6Gb/s, M.2, USB 3.2 Gen 1, Wi-Fi, D-SUB/HDMI/DP, Micro-ATX)
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Pretty sure anyone buying a $94 mobo isn't looking to buy a new gen CPU.
Haha, in a few months also being key. It is expected that there will be an early adopter cost as always, so AM5 "deals" might be a year out.
I've used these series boards and found them great for no frills (but still has the rainbow headers if you want) and solid builds. PCIe 4 and wifi under $100 is solid, especially if you are adding a super bet 5600 type CPU that won't lose headroom on a board like this one.
Think so? Would this be enough to capably handle the 5800x and 6800XT? What do we lose by going micro? An nvme, another PCI slot?
I'm seriously asking btw.
Nothing lost going mATX if you ask me. I wish there were more mATX options. I run a 5900x and 6800XT on the AsRock Pro4m x570 mATX board. Has everything I need, 4 RAM slots, 2 m.2, plus the Wi-Fi card slot, more PCIe slots than actual CPU lanes, etc. Might have spring for a nicer board but I use a mATX case and this is really about the only option for x570 in the mATX factor. I don't understand why ATX is popular when 90% percent of PC users have 2 RAM sticks, one NVMe drive and a single GPU as their entire machine. All the other space is wasted!
Nothing lost going mATX if you ask me. I wish there were more mATX options. I run a 5900x and 6800XT on the AsRock Pro4m x570 mATX board. Has everything I need, 4 RAM slots, 2 m.2, plus the Wi-Fi card slot, more PCIe slots than actual CPU lanes, etc. Might have spring for a nicer board but I use a mATX case and this is really about the only option for x570 in the mATX factor. I don't understand why ATX is popular when 90% percent of PC users have 2 RAM sticks, one NVMe drive and a single GPU as their entire machine. All the other space is wasted!
It depends, depends on what you want to connect either the mobo or case is the limiting factor, ie i probably should've bough an atx case with the matx board so i could fit in hdd's better.
But with an matx, you're limited to less pcie slots than with atx
Nothing lost going mATX if you ask me. I wish there were more mATX options. I run a 5900x and 6800XT on the AsRock Pro4m x570 mATX board. Has everything I need, 4 RAM slots, 2 m.2, plus the Wi-Fi card slot, more PCIe slots than actual CPU lanes, etc. Might have spring for a nicer board but I use a mATX case and this is really about the only option for x570 in the mATX factor. I don't understand why ATX is popular when 90% percent of PC users have 2 RAM sticks, one NVMe drive and a single GPU as their entire machine. All the other space is wasted!
That's a good point. My outgoing gaming PC has two GPUs in Xfire. But I wouldn't do that with my new one. I didn't realize they had 2 nvme ports on the micro.
Think so? Would this be enough to capably handle the 5800x and 6800XT? What do we lose by going micro? An nvme, another PCI slot?
I'm seriously asking btw.
JollyStag697 said it before I could: Less PCIe slots. And you need to check on the NVME slots too. Sometimes mATX will only have one M.2 NVME slot. That may be OK or not for you, depending on what you need. I agree with JollyStag697 and mordwho on another point: It all depends on what you need to do. In fact, I'd recommend having a good idea what you wish to accomplish with your build; then you could shop for the motherboard.
As an example, I recently built a NAS server. I knew I wanted to connect a lot of hard drives (NAS=network attached storage) and needed two M.2 NVME slots & 4 RAM slots. I needed a motherboard to use with a 6th generation Intel CPU (i7-6700) as well. This CPU (and 16GB of RAM) was coming out of a Dell XPS 8910 (nearly 5 years old) and going into a new case (old Dell system was getting old & I wanted a new case with space for more than 3 hard drives; the Dell case also had a power supply with limited connectivity and not enough power). I didn't want to re-use the Dell motherboard because it only had 4 SATA ports, and moving the Dell motherboard into a new case can be tricky because of the proprietary front-panel connectors Dell uses. I didn't want to bother with it. I checked the Dell support forums and some people had pulled it off, but to be honest, I wanted a fresh start.
Because this is an older CPU I had to hunt for motherboards that supported the LGA1151 CPU socket for 6th generation i7 CPU. New motherboards for LGA151 are not too common and the majority I could find had issues (would support 7th or 8th generation, not 6th; or only one M.2 NVME slot; or only two RAM slots). So I went to eBay and started hunting. I found a great mATX motherboard (ASUS Prime Q270M-C[asus.com]) with two M.2 NVME slots, 6 SATA ports (!) and 4 RAM slots. It was only $65 shipped! The motherboard was sold as "grade A refurbished" and I was shocked when I received it; looks brand new.
Put the NAS together a month ago and it's been working well ever since. CPU, new CPU cooler, RAM from the Dell and two RAM sticks from another system went in without a hitch. As well as two M.2 NVME drives for cache storage & 4 hard drives. Very happy with the build & elated I was able to find a great motherboard that met all my requirements. Some people laugh when they hear this story about me building a NAS with a 6th generation CPU, but keep in mind a NAS doesn't need a lot of processing power. For example, some Synology NAS units use a Celeron processor! And the Intel CPU I am using supports Quick Video Sync too (so I can leverage this for hardware transcoding support in Plex; works great with 1080p and the majority of 4K media).
If I ever need to hook up more than 6 drives, I can install a SATA controller card in the PCIe x16 slot to provide additional SATA ports. This motherboard only has 1 PCIe x16 (as it's micro ATX MB), so I kinda wish it had two PCIe x16, just to have a bit more flexibility. But the CPU I am using also has integrated graphics, so I don't need to use any PCIe slot for a video card. The MB also has 2 PCIe x1 slots, for any other low-bandwidth devices I may want to install later.
If/when I wish to upgrade to a newer CPU, I can buy a 7th gen Intel CPU that works with this motherboard. Or if I want a CPU newer than 7th gen, since I'm using a standard case (instead of the old Dell case),I just need a new motherboard and CPU. So upgrading this system would cost maybe $200-$250 1 or 2 years from now. By then Intel will likely be on generation 14, and the generation 12 CPUs will be much more affordable for my upgrade. Good luck with your motherboard search!
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I've used these series boards and found them great for no frills (but still has the rainbow headers if you want) and solid builds. PCIe 4 and wifi under $100 is solid, especially if you are adding a super bet 5600 type CPU that won't lose headroom on a board like this one.
Nice deal.
Manufacturers page:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B...O-VDH-WIFI
Looks like basic AC wireless, which thematically fits with the board.
I'm seriously asking btw.
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I'm seriously asking btw.
But with an matx, you're limited to less pcie slots than with atx
I'm seriously asking btw.
As an example, I recently built a NAS server. I knew I wanted to connect a lot of hard drives (NAS=network attached storage) and needed two M.2 NVME slots & 4 RAM slots. I needed a motherboard to use with a 6th generation Intel CPU (i7-6700) as well. This CPU (and 16GB of RAM) was coming out of a Dell XPS 8910 (nearly 5 years old) and going into a new case (old Dell system was getting old & I wanted a new case with space for more than 3 hard drives; the Dell case also had a power supply with limited connectivity and not enough power). I didn't want to re-use the Dell motherboard because it only had 4 SATA ports, and moving the Dell motherboard into a new case can be tricky because of the proprietary front-panel connectors Dell uses. I didn't want to bother with it. I checked the Dell support forums and some people had pulled it off, but to be honest, I wanted a fresh start.
Because this is an older CPU I had to hunt for motherboards that supported the LGA1151 CPU socket for 6th generation i7 CPU. New motherboards for LGA151 are not too common and the majority I could find had issues (would support 7th or 8th generation, not 6th; or only one M.2 NVME slot; or only two RAM slots). So I went to eBay and started hunting. I found a great mATX motherboard (ASUS Prime Q270M-C [asus.com]) with two M.2 NVME slots, 6 SATA ports (!) and 4 RAM slots. It was only $65 shipped! The motherboard was sold as "grade A refurbished" and I was shocked when I received it; looks brand new.
Put the NAS together a month ago and it's been working well ever since. CPU, new CPU cooler, RAM from the Dell and two RAM sticks from another system went in without a hitch. As well as two M.2 NVME drives for cache storage & 4 hard drives. Very happy with the build & elated I was able to find a great motherboard that met all my requirements. Some people laugh when they hear this story about me building a NAS with a 6th generation CPU, but keep in mind a NAS doesn't need a lot of processing power. For example, some Synology NAS units use a Celeron processor! And the Intel CPU I am using supports Quick Video Sync too (so I can leverage this for hardware transcoding support in Plex; works great with 1080p and the majority of 4K media).
If I ever need to hook up more than 6 drives, I can install a SATA controller card in the PCIe x16 slot to provide additional SATA ports. This motherboard only has 1 PCIe x16 (as it's micro ATX MB), so I kinda wish it had two PCIe x16, just to have a bit more flexibility. But the CPU I am using also has integrated graphics, so I don't need to use any PCIe slot for a video card. The MB also has 2 PCIe x1 slots, for any other low-bandwidth devices I may want to install later.
If/when I wish to upgrade to a newer CPU, I can buy a 7th gen Intel CPU that works with this motherboard. Or if I want a CPU newer than 7th gen, since I'm using a standard case (instead of the old Dell case),I just need a new motherboard and CPU. So upgrading this system would cost maybe $200-$250 1 or 2 years from now. By then Intel will likely be on generation 14, and the generation 12 CPUs will be much more affordable for my upgrade. Good luck with your motherboard search!